John is one of the most disruptive thinkers of our time and is capable of drilling down on critical issues like security, society, and technology with deep authority and insights. In this conversation we cover a lot of topics, including John’s concept of OODA Shear, data and digital self sovereignty, Afghanistan, AI, Bitcoin, and the role networked tribes play in modern life. We also dig into the idea of Long Night and how to ensure innovation without consolidating power into platforms of corporate and government censorship.